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5/17/2009 6:05 PM
 
But how do you deliver a neat beautiful implementation of dotnetnuke for a client if you have to force your client to also buy the telerik license for 1299 US ...it becomes way to much ... you can never deliver anything with telerik if they force to pay that much for every user ... according to the license model you talked about ... I know it is not your fault or problem ... i am just trying to figure this out ....
/Johan Hyra Vattenskoter
 
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5/18/2009 1:56 AM
 
The idea is not that each client pays that, it is that you as a developer use it for your clients and you pay it. The renewal price w/ support is ar$799, and it is royalty free distribution. If I wanted to make an application (a module in the dnn world), it is totally acceptable for me to include Telerik controls so long as I compile them under a new namespace and dll name (to meet the royalty free distribution requirements). However, something like an HTML provider isn't an application. On the other hand, if you sold your client a full DotNetNuke installation you could include any controls (HTML provider, Telerik's menu skin object) so long as you follow the royalty free distribution rights.

As I know you are aware (this is more for anyone who sees this post later), these are not my rules and are those of Telerik. I understand the perspective Telerik has and I feel they are in the right. At times I think people forget (in the DNN world) how much time and hard work it takes to make a solid component and support it. I hate to use the phrase "you get what you pay for" but I think it really does apply here. As a person who writes some free stuff (like this forum module), I fully understand how difficult it is to live (make money) and provide quality free products too. Again, this all comes back into the amount of time and effort it takes to make something of real value.
 
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5/19/2009 10:08 PM
 
Yes! I have got my Telerik component now .... so thrilled ... But know I'd like to implement it just exactly the same way it is implemented on this site .... Chris could you give me some clue about settings in the web config and also a bit about how the Htmlprovider needed for the telerik component to work beautifully like here ?
/Johan
 
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5/19/2009 10:58 PM
 
Telerik provides a DNN HTML Provider that utilizes their editor. It even is capable of altering the web.config for you. All I did was change how files are stored (not much different than what Telerik provides so you shouldn't need that change). The only other changes I have are:
  • Custom Tools Files (XML files that determine toolbars)
  • Custom Tool File By Role (I changed the logic of the Telerik HTML Provider to determine which tool file to load based on the user's role).

Outside of that, what Telerik provides you should be what you need. I also use the Rad Menu on this site, which is just a custom skin object they provider. I am investigating what it takes to create a real menu provider so I can replace the module actions menu too.

BTW - Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

 
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5/19/2009 11:07 PM
 
aha, I haven't found it yet though ... in which of the telerik download packages should you find this ready made DNN Html provider? i am going through them one by one right now .... I didn't buy the support though ...so I just have to go through them all manually ...
/Johan
 
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